X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Envelope-From: nichols78@msn.com Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc1-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.89]) by mail944c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mAQM9nPv026440; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:09:51 -0500 Received: from BAY107-W47 ([64.4.51.147]) by bay0-omc1-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:09:49 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_014e5ae7-3523-47f7-bf94-50a379c91a45_" X-Originating-IP: [66.112.57.247] From: Rene Nichols To: Chamber of Commerce , "Acct.Abililty/Stacey Viers" , Captain Morgans , Huron City Museums CC: "PACP/Stanek, Joyce" , "Rogers, Keri" Subject: RE: Car Show info Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:09:48 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9F9106FFAD654FA999DB3277DCD2B518@RABBIT> References: <9F9106FFAD654FA999DB3277DCD2B518@RABBIT> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2008 22:09:49.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2E088B0:01C95013] X-MMR: 0 X-Antivirus: Scanned by F-Prot Antivirus (http://www.f-prot.com) --_014e5ae7-3523-47f7-bf94-50a379c91a45_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joyce=2C =20 Lots of good info in all your e-mails.....thanks..... =20 Please note Keri's e-mail address. She is President of Friends and should = be the contact address for the Chamber. Not sure if you had it yet.... =20 I also agree with your statement. I know Keri had plans to discuss re-vamp= ing and I also agree we need to take a good look at this. I think everyone listed on this e-mail needs to = keep in mind that Keri is the chair of this event and all final decisions a= nd commitments should come from her speaking for the committee. As an exam= ple, when Dave asked if he could be in charge of the cruise, it was not dis= cussed as a committee nor was a committee vote taken. When we discussed the poker= run, I asked Darcie if she wanted to work on it with me, but didn't go through Keri. Wh= ile I personally value each and every one of you and your efforts to make t= his event happen, we need to follow procedure. In a sense, we are a dream team when it comes to planning an event. We are all DOERS w= hich comes with strong personalities and lots of good energy. With that be= ing said, I think we could all benefit from toning back just a bit and givi= ng our chair a chance to chair and keep us grounded. She put a lot of thou= ght and effort into preparing for these meetings, as well as spending lots = of time observing the car show this past May to see the process first hand.= She also spent time talking with car show participants, listening and obs= erving. More than all of us combined. She's attended other car shows in oth= er areas. When she tried to speak, she was cut off or told it wouldn't wor= k. You know, none of us wanted the chair job! Let's give her the respect = she deserves for stepping up to do it and at least let her speak and try he= aring what she's saying. =20 =20 I am afraid we are going down the same old track as the last few years with= this car show. If we continue to do the same old same old as done in past years, I can guarantee= we're heading for failure. Dave was incorrect when he said he has a system that works.......= if it worked, the car show would grow each year, not dwindle. A successful event should not cost = thousands of dollars from local businesses with zero return. Stacey and I also spent a = lot of time talking with car show attendees and businesses during the 2008 car show. I was dead serious= when I said we need to re-think how much we are asking businesses to contribute. While I = gave my business as a personal example, I can assure you there are many more that have shared t= he same feelings with me. Giving the flyer a new fresh look is another issue that was big for people.= Todd & I met with Dave last fall and tried to change things up a bit and add some volunteering, which D= ave said was not happening. I won't even bore you with those meetings. I w= ill tell you Todd made an attempt to change the flyer a bit last year, but was pressed for time and the resul= t was just a few minor changes. Contrary to what we were told, I'm quite sure the flyers didn't m= ake it to the big car events that were mentioned. I know it didn't go to print in time. Ano= ther big item many mentioned was to get the show in town, not at the park. I was told the car = show doesn't help draw attention to our businesses in town if it's at the park. Many business own= ers felt it would draw more people and more attention to their businesses if it was in town. = Having the "parade" of cars not stop at the Day Park was a big discussion at last fall's meeting. = Rather, it was suggested it go full circle and come back to town, again drawing attention to the tow= n. Three of us voted yes to circle it back to town. Dave & Don said no and they did it their way. = I don't have all the answers! Just a lot of concerns and comments that were made this past year and years= previous. We should be taking Joyce and Keri's suggestion to get the flye= r done because of the time issue and then spend the next two months fine tu= ning this event that can be successful, fun and profitable with a fresh loo= k without being a drain on our local small businesses. We have to go to th= em for so many things through out the year, let's not burn them out the fir= st month of the season on what should be a lower budget event. =20 Joyce and Keri have some very good points. Let's hear them out and then ta= ke a committee vote. =20 Keri will submit her tentative budget to the chamber board Monday with a fe= w adjustments based on Tuesday's meeting, but for the most part, it will be showing no profit o= r loss. The committee can work on improving the profit column over the next several months! =20 I also want to apologize again for not having the rough draft of a flyer fo= r you to look at Tuesday night. I still haven't been able to reach Stacey, so I'm not sure what hap= pened. As promised, as soon as I can, I'll get a rough draft to each of you, hopefully before Darc= ie heads south for a little R & R! =20 Thanks again to each one of you for stepping up and taking on this messed u= p project. If anyone can turn this car show around=2C this group can! =20 Rene =20 =20 =20 =20 From: pacofc@airadvantage.netTo: acct.ability@yahoo.com; dfinan@centurytel.= net; mpfinan@centurytel.net; nichols78@msn.comCC: joyce48467@yahoo.comSubje= ct: Car Show infoDate: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:39:16 -0500 Hi all -=20 =20 Here is some info. on the Car Show that I thought I would pass along to you= : =20 1) I emailed Jeff Babcock about chairing the "games" - but haven't heard ba= ck yet =20 2) I confirmed that the "Princess Party" is from 1 to 4 on Saturday (place= TBD) =20 3) I confirmed that the "Bake Sale" would be on Saturday (place & time TBD) =20 4) I let Nancy Creuger know that Marc Schillinger would be doing concession= s again this year =20 5) I confirmed that the Jr. Priscilla Club is sponsoring a Luncheon & Fashi= on Show at Breakers-on-the-Bay at noon on Saturday, May 16. This was not on= the flyer last year, and maybe it is not appropriate to include - but I ju= st wanted you to be aware of the event that weekend. =20 6) I already noted the dates & times for the Spaghetti dinner on Saturday a= nd Pancake Breakfast on Sunday - both confirmed. =20 7) I found out HOW MANY SCOUTS are involved currently in the Port Austin/Ki= nde areas: =20 Girls: about 43 total (Nancy Creuger - 7 in oldest group; Beth Fischer - 9 in 5th/6th grade group= ; Heather - 9 in 3rd/4th grade group; Joann Cox - 16 in 1st/2nd grade group= ) =20 Boys: about 15 total - various ages=2C Brandi Gordon is the leader =20 So that's about 58 - which is WAY more than I thought there were - and more= than there were last year. And that does not count the Rangers (Marc's gro= up). =20 8) And this is just a side note from Joyce - I am astounded at the amount o= f money that needs to be collected in order to run this event. I think we r= eally need to re-think all of the money that goes out for "prizes" and such= . I think we'd be better off making the car show FREE and not giving out bi= g prizes - we'd be farther ahead! Seriously. Also - if we are trying to "re= -vamp" the car show - we really have not done much of anything different at= this point. We're basically just picking up the pieces of what is left of = the car shows of the past. =20 Okay - I'm done. Again #8 is just my opinion. Just had to get it out. =20 Joyce Joyce Stanek, DirectorGreater Port Austin Area Chamber of CommerceP.O. Box = 274 - 2 W. Spring St.Port Austin MI 48467989.738.7600email: pacofc@airadv.n= etwww.portaustinarea.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_fast= er_112008 --_014e5ae7-3523-47f7-bf94-50a379c91a45_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joyce=2C
 =3B
Lots of good info in all your e-mails.....thanks.....
 =3B
Please note Keri's e-mail address.  She is President of Friends and sh= ould be the contact
address for the Chamber. =3B Not sure if you had it yet....
 =3B
I also agree with your statement.  I know Keri had plans to discuss re= -vamping and I also agree we need to
take a good look at this.  I think everyone listed on this e-mail= needs to keep in mind that Keri is the chair of this event and all final d= ecisions and commitments should come from her speaking for the committee.&n= bsp; As an example, when Dave asked if he could be in charge of the cruise,= it was not discussed
as a committee nor was a committee vote taken.  When we discussed the = poker run, I asked
Darcie if she wanted to work on it with me, but didn't go through Keri.&nbs= p; While I personally value each and every one of you and your efforts to m= ake this event happen, we need to follow procedure.  In a sense,
we are a dream team when it comes to planning an event.  We are all&nb= sp;DOERS which comes with strong personalities and lots of good energy= .  With that being said, I think we could all benefit from toning back= just a bit and giving our chair a chance to chair and keep us grounded.&nb= sp; She put a lot of thought and effort into preparing for these meetings, = as well as spending lots of time observing the car show this past May to se= e the process first hand.  She also spent time talking with car show p= articipants, listening and observing. More than all of us combined. Sh= e's attended other car shows in other areas.  When she tried to s= peak, she was cut off or told it wouldn't work.  You know, none o= f us wanted the chair job!  Let's give her the respect she deserves fo= r stepping up to do it and at least let her speak and try hearing what she'= s saying.  
 =3B
I am afraid we are going down the same old track as the last few years with= this car show.  If we
continue to do the same old same old as done in past years, I can guarantee= we're heading for
failure.  Dave was incorrect when he said he has a system that works..= .....if it worked, the car
show would grow each year, not dwindle. A successful event should not = cost thousands of
dollars from local businesses with zero return.  Stacey and I also spe= nt a lot of time talking with car
show attendees and businesses during the 2008 car show.  I was dead se= rious when I said we
need to re-think how much we are asking businesses to contribute.  Whi= le I gave my business as
a personal example, I can assure you there are many more that have shared t= he same feelings with me.
Giving the flyer a new fresh look is another issue that was big for people.=   Todd & I met with Dave last
fall and tried to change things up a bit and add some volunteering, which D= ave said was not happening. I won't even bore you with those meetings. = ; I will tell you Todd made an attempt
to change the flyer a bit last year, but was pressed for time and the = result was just a few minor
changes.  Contrary to what we were told, I'm quite sure the flyer= s didn't make it to the big
car events that were mentioned.  I know it didn't go to print in = time.  Another big item many
mentioned was to get the show in town, not at the park. I wa= s told the car show doesn't help draw
attention to our businesses in town if it's at the park.  Many busines= s owners felt it would
draw more people and more attention to their businesses if it was in t= own.  Having the "parade" of
cars not stop at the Day Park was a big discussion at last fall's meeting.&= nbsp;Rather, it was suggested
it go full circle and come back to town, again drawing attention to the tow= n.  Three of us voted yes
to circle it back to town.  Dave & Don said no and they did i= t their way.  I don't have all the answers!
Just a lot of concerns and comments that were made this past year and years= previous.  We should be taking Joyce and Keri's suggestion to get the= flyer done because of the time issue and then spend the next two months fi= ne tuning this event that can be successful, fun and profitable with a fres= h look without being a drain on our local small businesses.  We h= ave to go to them for so many things through out the year, let's not burn t= hem out the first month of the season on what should be a lower budget even= t.
 =3B
Joyce and Keri have some very good points.  Let's hear them out and th= en take a committee vote.
 =3B
Keri will submit her tentative budget to the chamber board Monday with a fe= w adjustments based
on Tuesday's meeting, but for the most part, it will be showing no profit o= r loss.  The committee
can work on improving the profit column over the next several months!<= BR>  =3B
I also want to apologize again for not having the rough draft of a fly= er for you to look at Tuesday
night.  I still haven't been able to reach Stacey, so I'm not sure wha= t happened.  As promised, as
soon as I can, I'll get a rough draft to each of you, hopefully before Darc= ie heads south for a
little R &=3B R!
 =3B
Thanks again to each one of you for stepping up and taking on this messed u= p project.  If anyone
can turn this car show around=2C this group can!
 =3B
Rene =3B =3B =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B


From: pacofc@airadvantage.net
To: acct.ability@yahoo.com; dfinan@century= tel.net; mpfinan@centurytel.net; nichols78@msn.com
CC: joyce48467@yahoo.= com
Subject: Car Show info
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:39:16 -0500
<= BR>
Hi all -
 =3B
Here is some info. on the Car Show that I thought I wou= ld pass along to you:
 =3B
1) I emailed Jeff Babcock about chairing the "games" - = but haven't heard back yet
 =3B
2) I confirmed that the "Princess Party" is from 1 to 4=   on Saturday (place TBD)
 =3B
3) I confirmed that the "Bake Sale" would be on Saturda= y (place & time TBD)
 =3B
4) I let Nancy Creuger know that Marc Schillinger would= be doing concessions again this year
 =3B
5) I confirmed that the Jr. Priscilla Club is sponsorin= g a Luncheon & Fashion Show at Breakers-on-the-Bay at noon on Saturday,= May 16. This was not on the flyer last year, and maybe it is not appropria= te to include - but I just wanted you to be aware of the event that weekend= .
 =3B
6) I already noted the dates & times for the Spaghe= tti dinner on Saturday and Pancake Breakfast on Sunday - both confirmed.
 =3B
7) I found out HOW MANY SCOUTS are involved currently i= n the Port Austin/Kinde areas:
 =3B
Girls: about 43 total
(Nancy Creuger - 7 in oldest group; Beth Fischer - 9 in= 5th/6th grade group; Heather - 9 in 3rd/4th grade group; Joann Cox - 16 in= 1st/2nd grade group)
 =3B
Boys: about 15 total - various ages, Brandi Gordon is t= he leader
 =3B
So that's about 58 - which is WAY more than I thought t= here were - and more than there were last year. And that does not count the= Rangers (Marc's group).
 =3B
8) And this is just a side note from Joyce - I am astou= nded at the amount of money that needs to be collected in order to run this= event. I think we really need to re-think all of the money that goes out f= or "prizes" and such. I think we'd be better off making the car show FREE a= nd not giving out big prizes - we'd be farther ahead! Seriously. Also - if = we are trying to "re-vamp" the car show - we really have not done much of a= nything different at this point. We're basically just picking up the pieces= of what is left of the car shows of the past.
 =3B
Okay - I'm done. Again #8 is just my opinion. Just had = to get it out.
 =3B
Joyce

Joyce Stanek, Director
Greater Port Austin Area = Chamber of Commerce
P.O. Box 274 - 2 W. Spring St.
Port Austin MI 484= 67
989.738.7600
email: pacofc@ai= radv.net
www.portaustinar= ea.com

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